• Fallout 3 in Windows 7

    From Chuck Michael@mymail@comcast.net to alt.games.fallout on Saturday, March 13, 2010 10:53:34
    From Newsgroup: alt.games.fallout

    I played, with no problem, Fallout 3 on my old XP machine. I just got a new Windows 7 machine, didn't like the on board video, installed a gForce 9800
    GT card and can not play Fallout 3.

    I've tried it patched, unpatched, the default high quality graphics and manually setting low quality graphics. The game always stop responding in
    the baby room. I've tried every hint I can find on the internet; download
    the latest LiveGames For Windows, install this, uninstall that, etc.

    Always locks up. Not always in the same place.

    Can anybody help?

    Chuck


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  • From Zootal@nospam@spam.zootal.nospam.com to alt.games.fallout on Saturday, March 13, 2010 15:58:27
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    "Chuck Michael" <mymail@comcast.net> wrote in news:ksadnRkeBbZiKQbWnZ2dnUVZ_vednZ2d@giganews.com:

    I played, with no problem, Fallout 3 on my old XP machine. I just got
    a new Windows 7 machine, didn't like the on board video, installed a
    gForce 9800 GT card and can not play Fallout 3.

    I've tried it patched, unpatched, the default high quality graphics
    and manually setting low quality graphics. The game always stop
    responding in the baby room. I've tried every hint I can find on the internet; download the latest LiveGames For Windows, install this,
    uninstall that, etc.

    Always locks up. Not always in the same place.

    Can anybody help?

    Chuck




    Try running in a window instead of fullscreen. This can help with the
    lockup problem.

    Fallout3 locks up on a regular basis for me, on both XP and Win7. If worse comes to worse, you might try to find a load game that is past the baby
    room. I'm not terribly optimistic this will help in the long run, as if it locks up there it will lock up in other places. At least this will get you going a bit longer.

    IMNSHO, they screwed up bigtime with the lockup problem, and never fixed
    it. I'm not sure if they don't care, or if they can't figure out how to fix it. It doesn't seem to happen to enough people for them to bother doing anything more about it :(
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  • From Chuck Michael@mymail@comcast.net to alt.games.fallout on Sunday, March 14, 2010 08:07:43
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    "Zootal" <nospam@spam.zootal.nospam.com> wrote in message news:Xns9D3A8E385BEBEnospamspamzootalnosp@216.196.97.131...
    "Chuck Michael" <mymail@comcast.net> wrote in news:ksadnRkeBbZiKQbWnZ2dnUVZ_vednZ2d@giganews.com:

    I played, with no problem, Fallout 3 on my old XP machine. I just got
    a new Windows 7 machine, didn't like the on board video, installed a
    gForce 9800 GT card and can not play Fallout 3.

    I've tried it patched, unpatched, the default high quality graphics
    and manually setting low quality graphics. The game always stop
    responding in the baby room. I've tried every hint I can find on the
    internet; download the latest LiveGames For Windows, install this,
    uninstall that, etc.

    Always locks up. Not always in the same place.

    Can anybody help?

    Chuck




    Try running in a window instead of fullscreen. This can help with the
    lockup problem.

    Fallout3 locks up on a regular basis for me, on both XP and Win7. If worse comes to worse, you might try to find a load game that is past the baby
    room. I'm not terribly optimistic this will help in the long run, as if it locks up there it will lock up in other places. At least this will get you going a bit longer.

    IMNSHO, they screwed up bigtime with the lockup problem, and never fixed
    it. I'm not sure if they don't care, or if they can't figure out how to
    fix
    it. It doesn't seem to happen to enough people for them to bother doing anything more about it :(

    I'll try windowed mode, guess that is the only thing I haven't tried yet. I was totally unprepared for this since I never had a problem with my old machine.

    Chuck


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  • From Chuck Michael@mymail@comcast.net to alt.games.fallout on Sunday, March 14, 2010 08:16:23
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    Try running in a window instead of fullscreen. This can help with the
    lockup problem.


    Still locked up. Only difference is, in windowed mode I also lost the mouse which made it harder to shut the program down. I wonder if that can be a clue.

    Chuck


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  • From Zootal@nospam@spam.zootal.nospam.com to alt.games.fallout on Sunday, March 14, 2010 13:47:14
    From Newsgroup: alt.games.fallout

    "Chuck Michael" <mymail@comcast.net> wrote in news:2-adnX8oyMuISQHWnZ2dnUVZ_jmdnZ2d@giganews.com:



    Try running in a window instead of fullscreen. This can help with the
    lockup problem.


    Still locked up. Only difference is, in windowed mode I also lost the
    mouse which made it harder to shut the program down. I wonder if that
    can be a clue.

    Chuck




    Welcome to our world. I never finished Fallout 3 because of the lockup bug. Nothing I tried fixed it, and it just got too irritating to play it.

    I'm reminded of the "bad game" commercial going around on TV right now. I
    feel that way when I try to play FO3.
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  • From JC@connor15@nospam.com.au to alt.games.fallout on Monday, March 15, 2010 16:59:54
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    "Chuck Michael" <mymail@comcast.net> wrote in message news:ksadnRkeBbZiKQbWnZ2dnUVZ_vednZ2d@giganews.com...
    I played, with no problem, Fallout 3 on my old XP machine. I just got a
    new Windows 7 machine, didn't like the on board video, installed a gForce >9800 GT card and can not play Fallout 3.

    I've tried it patched, unpatched, the default high quality graphics and manually setting low quality graphics. The game always stop responding in the baby room. I've tried every hint I can find on the internet; download the latest LiveGames For Windows, install this, uninstall that, etc.

    Always locks up. Not always in the same place.

    Can anybody help?

    Chuck



    You probably already tried updating the video driver, but if not then be
    aware that the version of the driver in the box with the video card is probably the worst one that will ever exist. Later drivers are often far better.

    The other hint is that you lost control of the mouse. This can also be symptomatic of video driver problems.

    Fallout 3 ususally runs for me without significant lockup problems, although
    I must admit I've had a lot of them in the last couple of days.

    JC

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  • From Chuck Michael@chuck.michael@comcast.net to alt.games.fallout on Monday, March 15, 2010 16:47:43
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    You probably already tried updating the video driver, but if not then be aware that the version of the driver in the box with the video card is probably the worst one that will ever exist. Later drivers are often far better.

    The other hint is that you lost control of the mouse. This can also be symptomatic of video driver problems.

    Fallout 3 ususally runs for me without significant lockup problems,
    although I must admit I've had a lot of them in the last couple of days.

    JC

    I thought I had updated but I did it again, just to be sure. It still
    locked up quickly but this time I retained the mouse in windowed mode.

    I'm starting to wish that I hadn't bought a new computer.

    Chuck


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  • From Chuck Michael@chuck.michael@comcast.net to alt.games.fallout on Monday, March 15, 2010 19:08:23
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    I think I got it working.

    I followed instructions for getting Fallout 3 to work with a quad core
    (which I don't think I have). A change and an addition in the ini file. I got past the baby room without a lock up. And with high quality.

    Now I shall update and try again.

    I hope it keeps working.

    Chuck


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  • From Chuck Michael@chuck.michael@comcast.net to alt.games.fallout on Tuesday, March 16, 2010 16:22:08
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    "Chuck Michael" <chuck.michael@comcast.net> wrote in message news:uOudnZEE1YJ0IAPWnZ2dnUVZ_hudnZ2d@giganews.com...
    I think I got it working.

    I followed instructions for getting Fallout 3 to work with a quad core (which I don't think I have). A change and an addition in the ini file.
    I got past the baby room without a lock up. And with high quality.

    Now I shall update and try again.

    I hope it keeps working.

    Chuck



    Played for an hour today with no problems. Yea!

    Chuck


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  • From JC@connor15@nospam.com.au to alt.games.fallout on Wednesday, March 17, 2010 09:54:14
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    "Chuck Michael" <chuck.michael@comcast.net> wrote in message news:N5ydnZZEvfrvdQLWnZ2dnUVZ_jCdnZ2d@giganews.com...

    "Chuck Michael" <chuck.michael@comcast.net> wrote in message news:uOudnZEE1YJ0IAPWnZ2dnUVZ_hudnZ2d@giganews.com...
    I think I got it working.

    I followed instructions for getting Fallout 3 to work with a quad core
    (which I don't think I have). A change and an addition in the ini file.
    I got past the baby room without a lock up. And with high quality.

    Now I shall update and try again.

    I hope it keeps working.

    Chuck



    Played for an hour today with no problems. Yea!

    Chuck


    I'm glad you got it going. I play Fallout 3 on a quad core too, but its been so long since I installed it that I can't remember if I did an INI tweak or not. I must check it out and see if I get an improvement as well.

    JC

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  • From JC@connor15@nospam.com.au to alt.games.fallout on Sunday, March 21, 2010 10:41:27
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    "Chuck Michael" <chuck.michael@comcast.net> wrote in message news:uOudnZEE1YJ0IAPWnZ2dnUVZ_hudnZ2d@giganews.com...
    I think I got it working.

    I followed instructions for getting Fallout 3 to work with a quad core (which I don't think I have). A change and an addition in the ini file.
    I got past the baby room without a lock up. And with high quality.

    Now I shall update and try again.

    I hope it keeps working.

    Chuck


    Very interesting. I checked if I had made the quad core ini changes and I
    had not - so I made the changes and played for a few days. I am now getting zero in game lockups, which is pretty good. But now I get a lockup on exit 100% of the time, and it is unrecoverable without using the task manager (Oblivion also had problems on exit, but it was just a crash rather than a lockup). Previously I never got a lockup on exit for Fallout 3.

    So I'll leave the quad core ini changes in place as the gameplay is better, but I wonder if there is a way to refine the tweak to keep stable game play but fix the lockup on exit. Anyone have any ideas ?

    JC

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  • From Chuck Michael@chuck.michael@comcast.net to alt.games.fallout on Sunday, March 21, 2010 16:11:55
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    "JC" <connor15@nospam.com.au> wrote in message news:4ba55d27$0$32748$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...

    "Chuck Michael" <chuck.michael@comcast.net> wrote in message news:uOudnZEE1YJ0IAPWnZ2dnUVZ_hudnZ2d@giganews.com...
    I think I got it working.

    I followed instructions for getting Fallout 3 to work with a quad core
    (which I don't think I have). A change and an addition in the ini file.
    I got past the baby room without a lock up. And with high quality.

    Now I shall update and try again.

    I hope it keeps working.

    Chuck


    Very interesting. I checked if I had made the quad core ini changes and I had not - so I made the changes and played for a few days. I am now
    getting zero in game lockups, which is pretty good. But now I get a lockup on exit 100% of the time, and it is unrecoverable without using the task manager (Oblivion also had problems on exit, but it was just a crash
    rather than a lockup). Previously I never got a lockup on exit for Fallout 3.

    So I'll leave the quad core ini changes in place as the gameplay is
    better, but I wonder if there is a way to refine the tweak to keep stable game play but fix the lockup on exit. Anyone have any ideas ?

    JC

    Strange thing is, I don't have a quad core. It just makes it run. I have
    no lockup on exit. I'm happy that it is working but I wish I knew why.

    Chuck


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  • From Negrodaumus@langos@bluebottle.com to alt.games.fallout on Monday, March 29, 2010 12:31:12
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    I feel your pain.

    This is one of the major reasons why I abandoned PC games in favour of
    console games. I haven't encountered any problems with the PS3 version.

    Chuck Michael wrote:
    I played, with no problem, Fallout 3 on my old XP machine. I just got a
    new Windows 7 machine, didn't like the on board video, installed a
    gForce 9800 GT card and can not play Fallout 3.

    I've tried it patched, unpatched, the default high quality graphics and manually setting low quality graphics. The game always stop responding
    in the baby room. I've tried every hint I can find on the internet; download the latest LiveGames For Windows, install this, uninstall that, etc.

    Always locks up. Not always in the same place.

    Can anybody help?

    Chuck


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  • From herwin@herwin@btinternet.com.invalid to alt.games.fallout on Friday, April 16, 2010 10:21:17
    From Newsgroup: alt.games.fallout

    In article <Pl6sn.93734$Dv7.35972@newsfe17.iad>,
    Negrodaumus <langos@bluebottle.com> wrote:

    I feel your pain.

    This is one of the major reasons why I abandoned PC games in favour of console games. I haven't encountered any problems with the PS3 version.

    Chuck Michael wrote:
    I played, with no problem, Fallout 3 on my old XP machine. I just got a new Windows 7 machine, didn't like the on board video, installed a
    gForce 9800 GT card and can not play Fallout 3.

    I've tried it patched, unpatched, the default high quality graphics and manually setting low quality graphics. The game always stop responding
    in the baby room. I've tried every hint I can find on the internet; download the latest LiveGames For Windows, install this, uninstall that, etc.

    Always locks up. Not always in the same place.

    Can anybody help?

    Chuck



    I've run it on a MacBook Pro in Windows 7 using BootCamp. Try changing
    the screen resolution.
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  • From Chuck Michael@chuck.michael@comcast.net to alt.games.fallout on Sunday, April 18, 2010 19:34:24
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    <herwin@btinternet.com.invalid> wrote in message news:herwin-02795F.10211716042010@news.altopia.com...
    In article <Pl6sn.93734$Dv7.35972@newsfe17.iad>,
    Negrodaumus <langos@bluebottle.com> wrote:

    I feel your pain.

    This is one of the major reasons why I abandoned PC games in favour of
    console games. I haven't encountered any problems with the PS3 version.

    Chuck Michael wrote:
    I played, with no problem, Fallout 3 on my old XP machine. I just got
    a
    new Windows 7 machine, didn't like the on board video, installed a
    gForce 9800 GT card and can not play Fallout 3.

    I've tried it patched, unpatched, the default high quality graphics and
    manually setting low quality graphics. The game always stop responding
    in the baby room. I've tried every hint I can find on the internet;
    download the latest LiveGames For Windows, install this, uninstall
    that,
    etc.

    Always locks up. Not always in the same place.

    Can anybody help?

    Chuck



    I've run it on a MacBook Pro in Windows 7 using BootCamp. Try changing
    the screen resolution.

    Turned out all I needed to do was change the ini file to ignore quad core, which I don't have - only duel core, and it runs fine.

    Chuck


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