It's called bw-y2k.zip. I know it may not help your current setup but for future use.

-- Sean




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Might just go back to my old D'Bridge setup and get a point address
for fido anyway. I don't remember if you allow points in Micronet or
not?

I do but if you're gonna run DB, I'd rether just give you a MO node number
if Jay's okay with it and you are gonna leave DB up and running in the background.

MBSE's BW support is pretty good. I use it occasionally and never any
issues with it. I use MultiMail, of course, without issues. These days, I don't mind logging into the board to check mail.

It's your choice, of course. I'm happy you chose to stick around after you shuttered your board.

-- digi



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Well grumble. Before I try that I'll switch to a QWK packet on your board. Looks like when I post from Pharcyde synchronet is fixing the
date issue.

I can install a packet date fixer that can run on all packets here on my
board if need be. PKTDATE by Tobias Ernst, IIRC.

-- digi



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On 01 Sep 2024, digimaus said the following...

I do but if you're gonna run DB, I'd rether just give you a MO node
number if Jay's okay with it and you are gonna leave DB up and running
in the background.

No issues with that at all.

It's your choice, of course. I'm happy you chose to stick around after you shuttered your board.

Ditto! I called Shawn's board (racking up long distance) when I was a teenager, was happy to see he was still around when I popped back in to the hobby.


Jay

... Every night at 11:11, I wish that someone would fix my broken clock

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Quoting Digimaus to Shawn Highfield <=-

MBSE's BW support is pretty good. I use it occasionally and never any issues with it. I use MultiMail, of course, without issues. These

I'm going to grab that BW packet thing you linked to me and see if that
helps. I checked on Pharcyde and all my posts have the year 2024, but I
do see the year 60 on Outpost.

So I'm thinking there is a bug in the bluewave part of sempoint, so next
step run that tool, see if everything looks okay if not etc etc etc.

This is a QWK packet from outpost using bluewave for dos but the patched version I have used for 24 years without a problem. So I do not expect
any problems with the year in this packet.

It's your choice, of course. I'm happy you chose to stick around
after you shuttered your board.

I don't think I would run a binkp instance all the time, more just
poll and exit. However I'm currently more interested in trying to fix
what I've got, while there is no source available for sempoint with MBSE
being opensourse if we track it to that it can be fixed. One way or another I'll make it work. ;)

Shawn

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Shawn Highfield wrote to Digimaus <=-

This is a QWK packet from outpost using bluewave for dos but the
patched version I have used for 24 years without a problem. So I do
not expect any problems with the year in this packet.

Everything looks fine with this message.

I don't think I would run a binkp instance all the time, more just
poll and exit.

That's fine too. As a MO node, that's to be expected. Then again, being a point could be easy. I tried cPoint before and it worked well for me.

However I'm currently more interested in trying to fix
what I've got, while there is no source available for sempoint with
MBSE being opensourse if we track it to that it can be fixed. One way
or another I'll make it work. ;)

I believe Synchronet has the auto-Y2K stuff built-in. With MBSE, I just
have to add it in.

-- digi

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Warpslide wrote to digimaus <=-

No issues with that at all.

It's entirely between you two.

Ditto! I called Shawn's board (racking up long distance) when I was a teenager, was happy to see he was still around when I popped back in to the hobby.

Shawn helped me when I was first experimenting with Maximus circa 1997 or
so. He also helped form Micronet and gave me the "Iron Fist" moniker during
a public arguement we had in Micronet. Time passed, we cooled off, and he became active again in Micronet. We were both hotheads way back when. XD

-- digi


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Shawn Highfield wrote to Digimaus <=-

You embrased the name! ;)

I did embrace it because I do run Micronet with an iron fist. You doin't
see any of the Eurotrash from Fidonet in here, right? XD

What do you mean back when? ;)

Well, with three stents in my heart and long record of cardiovascular
trouble, I've had to cool down. In fact, I'll be attending my online anger management class in about 5 minutes...

-- Sean

... Alan's Motto: it's easier to make true enemies than true friends.
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digimaus wrote to Shawn Highfield:

I did embrace it because I do run Micronet with an iron fist. You doin't see any of the Eurotrash from Fidonet in here, right? XD

True, I'll try to invite some. :)

Well, with three stents in my heart and long record of cardiovascular trouble, I've had to cool down. In fact, I'll be attending my online
anger
management class in about 5 minutes...

Good for you. I calmed down just becuase I no longer care about anything
too much. It's just easier for me, life won. LOL

Shawn

Greetings, Shawn Highfield

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On 03 Sep 2024, Shawn Highfield said the following...

Good for you. I calmed down just becuase I no longer care about anything too much. It's just easier for me, life won. LOL

A common saying at one of my previous jobs was:

"It only hurts until you go numb"

Kind of stuck with me.


Jay

... Nostalgia is OK, but it's not what it used to be

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Warpslide wrote to Shawn Highfield <=-

"It only hurts until you go numb"

o/` I have become / Comfortably dumb o/`

-- digi

... Kitman's Law: pure drivel tends to drive away ordinary drivel.
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Re: Re: Patch
By: digimaus to Shawn Highfield on Mon Sep 02 2024 01:11 pm

Howdy,

I believe Synchronet has the auto-Y2K stuff built-in. With MBSE, I just have to add it in.

Is this Y2K stuff would fix Shawn's messages with a 2060 timestamp?

If so, do you have more details, I'd like to include that processing in clrghouz, since there are a bunch of messages data Oct 2060.


...oEoN
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Is this Y2K stuff would fix Shawn's messages with a 2060 timestamp?

I think so but I know very little about it.

If so, do you have more details, I'd like to include that processing in clrghouz, since there are a bunch of messages data Oct 2060.

I found this:

Fido Year 2000 Tools Rel. 6 by Tobias Ernst ===========================================
PKTDATE 1.5 is a program that can analyse
PKT files for structural errors that result
from year 2000 related bugs in the creating
software and automatically fix such broken
PKT files. It is intended for use at hub
level in the Fidonet distribution structure
in order to alleviate the effects of the
year 2000 problem on the smooth operation
of Fidonet. Also included are a general
information text on the year 2000 problem
in Fidonet, and tools for analysing MSG,
JAM and Squish message base files.
Includes OS/2, Win32, DOS, Linux and Amiga
binaries and source. Unzip with -d option!

It is Y2KTOOL6.ZIP at http://archives.thebbs.org/ra53a.htm.

However, it only fixes inbound packets. It won't fix outbound packets.

-- Sean




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Re: Re: Patch
By: digimaus to Deon George on Mon Sep 09 2024 12:53 am

Howdy,

Is this Y2K stuff would fix Shawn's messages with a 2060 timestamp?

I think so but I know very little about it.
I found this:

Fido Year 2000 Tools Rel. 6 by Tobias Ernst

Oh, I was actually wanting to find out more detail about how the 2060 date is made or fixed, so that I could reverse it and put it back to what it should be. Does MBSE do it automatically?

I havent spent any time on it, so dont know if I need to convert it back to epoch seconds and kill off a bit or two, or if there is some other formula.

A first glance 2060 is 60 years ahead of 2000, but we are not 60 years ahead of 1970 (so its not that simple). I also figured that its more than that, because the month doesnt add up, unless it is also because (from memory?), months start from zero in packed messages and hence why his dates were october.

My initial plan was to update clrghouz to reject any messages more an "x" days from the current date (and send a netmail to the sender), but if I can fix predicatable bad ones first, I'd prefer to do that.


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Hello Deon!

13 Sep 24 09:16, you wrote to digimaus:

Oh, I was actually wanting to find out more detail about how the 2060
date is made or fixed, so that I could reverse it and put it back to
what it should be. Does MBSE do it automatically?

MBSE can use PKTDATE to correct dates on incoming packets but does no actual correction on its own. The Y2K problem was 24 years ago.

-- Sean

... Documentation: the worst part of programming.
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